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On February 6, 2008, NY ICE attended The New School's immigration "debate" in NYC.
The informative Report-back follows the forthcoming photos. The photo below features some of the speakers. From the left-- The New School moderator, Heather Macdonald, Emilio Gonzalez, and Jorge Bustamente:
The following photo is of Heather Macdonald, who expressed many of NY ICE's views:
The following photo is of Jorge Bustamente, who is a shameless promoter of Mexican self-interest, whatever the American cost:
Report-back from 2.6.08 New School Debate:
On February 6, 2008, NY ICE attended The New School's immigration "debate" in NYC. Speakers included Heather Macdonald, who is a City Journal contributing editor, Emilio Gonzalez, who is director of the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, and Jorge Bustamente, who is founder and president of an organization that translates from the Spanish into "The School of the Northern Border".
As expected, NY ICE found the usual pity-party among the illegal alien advocates on the panel, and the usual purposeful confusion between illegal aliens and legal immigrants. There was the typical assumption that desire to come to the United States should be enough for entrance. The audience of a mixture of college kids and seniors were virtually hit over the head with the caricature of the pitiful, harmless illegal alien who just wants to work in this country in the "job Americans won't do".
Ah---the rhetoric. Never much mentioned is that these are jobs that illegals steal from Americans and legal immigrants by undercutting our wages, often sending money back home to Mexico to the tune of $30 billion American dollars per year (source: NY Times magazine). Never much said is that they are often unskilled and unqualified for the jobs that they steal-- jobs like construction. The effect of this is you have shoddy construction and its consequences: accidents and fatalities because these illegals often can't even read the basic English on a bag of sand! (By the way, illegal aliens thank you, Donald Trump, for employing so many of them in your construction. Your recent Soho building's accident is a consequence of your unquenchable thirst for employing illegal aliens and selling out the American worker).
Jorge Bustamente did mention that Mexico treats its own illegals terribly, and much worse than illegals are treated in the U.S. However, when illegals from Mexico get here, they run towards the language of their "rights"-- rights that do NOT belong to them, nor are they rights that they would ever bestow on their own illegal trespassers in Mexico. Illegal aliens-- and that's what they are, NOT immigrants-- try to co-opt the language of the civil rights and immigrant rights movements in the hopes that the American public becomes too confused (or lazy) to notice.
Of the panelists, NY ICE most agreed with the comments made by Heather Macdonald. You can read an informative article by her here:
http://www.city-journal.org/html/14_1_the_illegal_alien.html
The farce of a Question and Answer period, in which hardly a question was answered, began after the panelists spoke. The moderator cited time constraints, but time would not have been so constrained if he hadn't allowed Jorge Bustamente to monopolize with his "jokes" and diatribes. But, then that would've required him to actually sensibly restore order with a Mexican citizen, which may have come off as "not nice", and that would've run him the risk of being called a "racist".
Which he can't have. So, there were many unanswered questions. And the people with the pro-illegal alien sympathies were allowed to ramble, but those that wanted enforcement of existing immigration laws were heckled.
One interesting moment was when a young man who possibly attends The New School actually called illegal aliens "heroes", and cried. They were heroes to him because of what he claimed they have to suffer in order to trespass into our country.
Another interesting moment was when NY ICE asked the panel, "Isn't it an affront to everyone who goes through the legal immigration process to have all of these illegal aliens here?" This question was, of course, unanswered. But, there is a process to coming to the U.S.-- legal immigrants are screened, as NY ICE stated to the panelists, for diseases, among other things. Now, due to illegals, we have incidences of diseases thought to be eradicated in this country, diseases like polio (source: CDC).
NY ICE said that illegal Mexicans see Americans as a bunch of stupid "gringos" for allowing them to infiltrate, and, if we allow them to stay and keep coming through any kind of amnesty, that's what we will be: stupid gringos. Then the NY Icer slammed the mike.
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